Reminder from the headlines: Suicide not just about depression

28 08 2007

The Washington Post reported yesterday that the Virginia Tech shooter had an anxiety disorder as a child.   I don’t want to say much more about that, and I don’t know enough about Seung Hui Cho to know whether this did or did not play a role in his actions in April.

But such news can provide a useful reminder to review the prototypes and heuristics clinicians have in our heads about suicide.  Specifically, we need to resist the temptation to only think or ask about suicide in cases of depression.  Although depression is present in a large proportion of  people who die by suicide, suicide is by no means synonymous with depression.   Anxiety disorders, personality disorders, and psychotic disorders are all associated with risk for suicide.  This begins to make sense when you think about suicide often being a response to hopelessness, despair, agitation, and a feeling of being trapped (often with an overlay of substance abuse disinhibiting the person’s symptoms and behavior).   When put that way, it’s not hard to see how chronic intense anxiety could lead to suicidal thinking (or action).

I think this is something many clinicians know, but old prototypes can be stubborn and often get in the way of us accessing what we know.   When we refresh our thinking, we  can more effectively remember to to ask about suicidal ideation in every case, not just when depression is prominent.

Related posts:
Murder-Suicide, Domestic Violence…Common threads in violence against self and others

Suicide turned outward: Times of London Article by Dewey Cornell

Erratum on previous post: Cornell not author, just interviewed





CTL to Healthcare Professional Mindmappers: Delurk!

28 08 2007

Gaelen O’Connell over at Mindjet contacted me to ask if I knew of other healthcare professionals who are use or write about mindmapping.   I thought it was a good question.  I couldn’t think of anyone, but realized that if there were others out there, I would love to connect.    So..if there are any other healthcare professionals with an interest in mapping out there, leave a comment on this post or email me separately.  Thanks for the question, Gaelen!  





Thoughts about SAD PERSONS Screen

27 08 2007

I’ve gotten a few questions from colleagues and trainees lately about using the SADPERSONS screen. Most recently, a colleague pointed me to an article in Psychiatric Times titled, “APA: Simple Screen Improves Suicide Risk Assessment.” The topic seems worthy of a post to think through both the appeal and risks of the SADPERSONS scale.

For those who are not aware of SAD PERSONS, it is a 10-item scale to purports to screen for suicide risk. An individual is given one point for each item for which he or she screens positive:

  • Sex (male)
  • Age less than 19 or greater than 45 years
  • Depression (patient admits to depression or decreased concentration, sleep, appetite and/or libido
  • Previous suicide attempt or psychiatric care
  • Excessive alcohol or drug use
  • Rational thinking loss: psychosis, organic brain syndrome
  • Separated, divorced, or widowed
  • Organized plan or serious attempt
  • No social support
  • Sickness, chronic disease

The word “simple” in headline of this Psychiatric Times article linked above captures what makes the tool sound appealing, especially for the thousands of health care systems that need a quick way to respond to the JCAHO patient safety goal 15 and 15A: “The organization identifies safety risk inherent in its client populations” and “The organization identifies clients at risk for suicide” (see this .pdf for explication of these goals).

From one perspective, there is nothing wrong with using acronym like this. It can remind clinicians (assuming they can remember what all the letters stand for!) of some of the risk factors and warning signs of suicide. Who can argue with that? However, from a training and clinical perspective, there are a few problems with this approach, especially when the screen is put forward as a scored scale. Let me summarize a few of these. Note that my thinking about some of these concerns is strongly influenced by concerns articulated by my senior (and very brilliant) colleagues in email exchanges we have had about this. I don’t claim originality here, just summary:

  1. The “scale” assigns risk level on the basis of a point system: A score of 1 or 2 points indicates low risk, 3-5 points indicates moderate risk, and 7-10 indicates high risk. This approach works under the assumption that these factors are equally weighted. A separated, 46-year old male with diabetes with no depression would have a higher risk level (score=4, moderate), than 40 year-old married woman with chronic depression, current hopelessness who was just released from a psychiatric hospital after a near-hanging. (score=2, low risk).
  2. Having a risk “score” creates conditions for clinicians to rely on a number instead of developing an informed clinical formulation of risk.
  3. The suggestion that risk for suicide can be boiled down to a single number–even for screening purposes–presents a misleading picture of the complexity phenomenon and how to think about it as a clinician.
  4. The evidence that the linked article gathered does not correspond with the alluring headline, “Simple Screen Improves Suicide Risk Assessment.” Evidence reported by those who conducted the study was that, after using the computerized screen, nurses tested showed more knowledge about risk factors for suicide. Of course, knowledge about factors is a long way from demonstrating improved assessment. Obviously, the physicians who reported their study at APA the study did not write the headline. The semantic overreach of the headline speaks to the understandable desire to find easy ways of doing hard things.
  5. Finally, from a training perspective, I find acronyms longer that 3 letters almost impossible to remember! SAD PERSONS particularly clumsy, and, IMHO a bit forced. “O” stands for “Organized plan or serious attempt” whereas I would probably make plan a “P” if I were trying to remember it, but of course that’s already taken by “P” for “Previous.” That often ends up being the problem with trying to make these things fit into an acronym. In a way, this gets back to the theme I’ve been harping on lately in my posts about teaching and training about needing a basic-science base about how clinicians learn, remember, and use principles or practices we learn. I’d imagine an expert in human memory could graph the inverse relationship between recall rate and number of letters in an acronym–add to that the need to recall these letters that signify words or concepts with high emotional impact.

In summary, while SAD PERSONS may be helpful to some people as a tool for remembering risk factors, it has some serious limitations as risk assessment “scale” and probably as a mnemonic.





Possible implications of findings re: visual memory

27 08 2007

Readers of this blog know that I am interested in mindmapping and other visual presentation strategies as tools for training clinicians in suicide risk assessment (see related posts listed below).  In a previous post marked “needs development” I noted:

Really, there is a “basic science” set of questions about learning and the clinician mind that gets skipped over when we do the necessary and important work of evaluating educational interventions.

Thanks to a post on PsychNews, I came across this interesting article in Cognitive Daily that attempts to provide some explanations for why visual memories are often so vivid.  One of the take-home points of the study cited in the article is that the vividness of visual memory is directly related to the duration of viewing.    This is unsurprising in some ways, but it supports the educational strategy of using one or two maps or other graphics (rather than a multitude of Powerpoint slides or text handouts) to teach about a clinical concept like risk assessment.   Participants in my trainings, for example, view one map (whose branches I dynamically hid and show) for nearly the entire presentation.

These little bits of basic science evidence remind me, once again, that we pay too little attention to the evidence base of our teaching techniques.   It is well and good to decideto pursue evidence-based interventions and therapuetics (EBIT, as we call it around here), but what is often missing (besides a coherent notion of what constitutes evidence–a topic for another day) is an evidence-based way of disseminating evidence-based practice to clinicians.

Related Posts:

Visual maps and guides in high stress situations

Mindmapping coping strategies

Evidence for visually different presentation format

Tech tools for clinical thinking and training





CTL censored in China

23 08 2007

Thanks to a post by Dr. X, I discovered that this blog is banned in China–at least according to the Great Firewall of China, a site that purports to test any URL to see if it is blocked in China.    I’m interested to know how sites make the blacklist.  That there must be a keyword algorithm or something like that for censoring site–if so, I guess “suicide” or “risk” is on that list.





eMJA: The effect of Web 2.0 on the future of medical practice and education: Darwikinian evolution or folksonomic revolution?

23 08 2007




CTL added to PsychNews

21 08 2007

Commitment to Living has been added as a news source to PsychNews, a site that aggregates psychology news from a range of sources.   PsychNews has a nice-looking interface and plans to offer RSS syndication soon, which will be good for those who want a breadth of psych news coverage in a single feed.

Related posts:  Commitment to Living featured on PsychSplash





Owner of Chinese Toy Factory Dies – New York Times

14 08 2007

Almost nothing is known about this factory owner, so we should be careful about what lessons we draw.  But this news is a sad and startling reminder that job loss and financial pressure (here mixed with public humiliation) raises risk of suicide.
Owner of Chinese Toy Factory Commits Suicide – New York Times.





Conversation with Paul Quinnett, Founder/CEO of QPR

1 08 2007

I talked yesterday with Paul Quinnett, Ph.D. Founder and CEO of the QPR Institute. He has been working in the field of suicide prevention for decades and has developed an excellent set of tools for clinicians. I enjoyed the conversation because Dr. Quinnett is bright, experienced, and passionate about his work, and also because of the conceptual overlaps I observed through our conversation. Here are a few from my notes:

Technology Transfer. Dr. Quinnett’s interest is technology transfer, i.e. taking what is known from the literature and clinical experience giving it legs for the working clinician and healthcare system. This the primary thrust of my evolving work, as well. I also have an interest finding the most efficient and effective pedagogical method for transferring information.  This is where my interest in mapping and other forms of visual representations comes in (see my previous mapping posts). This topic is also part of what has interested me when I heard Wendi Cross speak (see my post reflecting on Organizational factors that support care of suicidal person).

Family involvement. I’ve posted several times (see Where’s the Family?, and At the crossroads of family therapy and suicide prevention) about the conundrum that family involvement presents for suicide risk assessment: we don’t have good models for talking about suicide with family members present, we don’t have clear ideas about how to incorporate families in the assessment process, AND in many cases it is impossible to imagine performing a worthwhile assessment and management plan without family input.  Dr. Quinnett has been working on this very issue from two interesting perspectives. The first is what he called “the cost of data collection.” That is, he is curious about how clinicians perceive the cost of collecting information from 3rd parties. The second is that he is working on developing a protocol of the key questions and info one should ask/gather from family members to guide clinicians in their interviews. Dr. Quinnett has been working on this with Sergio Perez Barrero, MD, a psychiatrist in Cuba who founded the Suicidology Section of World Psychiatry Association and also the World Suicidology Net.Dr. Perez Barrero is a QPR trainer, who has translated the materials in to Spanish.

Drawing on experience in other fields that do risk assessment.  In a previous post, (Reflecting on Intersections with Knowledge Management, Dave Snowden, and Singapore’s Risk Assessment and Horizon Scanning System), I shared my reactions to Dave Snowden’s work on detecting terrorist threats. Dr. Quinnett was struck in a similar way by Gavin deBecker’s work in threat assessment. I had not heard of deBecker but apparently his California firm, Gavin deBecker and Associates works with high-profile clients (including Hollywood celebrities) to analyzing potential threats to their safety. He has written a book called “The Gift of Fear,” which I plan to read on Dr. Quinnett’s recommendation.

Along similar lines, I have consulted with a forensic psychologist and friend, Daniel Murrie, Ph.D., who co-authored a book (with Mary Alice Conroy) coming out this fall about assessment of risk for violence, “Forensic Assessment of Violence Risk: A Guide for Risk Assessment and Risk Management.” This book, which I’ve seen excerpts of, presents an approach to assessment of risk for violence that is clear and accessible to clinicians and retains the richness and clinical complexity that appropriate to the challenging work of predicting an individual’s risk of being violent. The approach that Conroy and Murrie take has potential applicability for suicide risk assessment, for which we’ve never quite had such a clear model for conducting and writing assessments.

I guess the intersection here relates to seeing potential for developments in threat and violence prediction work to help our efforts to improve detection of suicide risk.

Desire to understand the clinician’s state of mind when faced with risk assessment. I have noted before (see my post on Visual maps and guides in high stress situations) that I’m interested in learning what the cognitive science would be related to how people best access information for decision making in high arousal situations. Similarly, Dr. Quinnett mentioned that he would like to test clinician perceptions about information gathering in risk assessment. What kind of cost/benefit appraisals do they make about asking questions and gathering collateral info?

In my view, the clinician’s state of mind/emotion and cognitive heuristics are underappreciated in most approaches to training about suicide risk. As I noted in my post about clinician anxiety (Clinician anxiety–what’s it about?), what we believe about the most pressing concerns for clinicians will influence what and how we teach. Likewise, understanding how clinicians learn best is important for modes of dissemination (for example, see my post on How clinicians learn: Web 2.0 Opportunities?).

Summary: “Needs Development.” This is another post I’ll tag “needs development” because much of this raises more questions than it answers.   But reflecting on these conceptual intersections helps me to see how much is not known about how to approach training in suicide risk assessment.   Really, there is a “basic science” set of questions about learning and the clinician mind that gets skipped over when we do the necessary and important work of evaluating educational interventions (which, of course, we don’t do enough of either!).